CTX - HIT or MISS

[whigsvolt]

Jerry Said.
Quote "I dont think this will apply to the CTX3030 as time goes by we will see. Jerry. "Unquote

Jerry.Your never ending persistence in Downing the Ctx 3030 On just about every forum i go on simply amazes me and it seems like you are on some huge mission to destroy its very existence.

None of your comments on the Ctx are the least bit constructive Jerry just demeaning and belittling and mainly one liners that are evidently just trying to wind people up.

The jibes and pokes at it are tyresome and above all counter productive.We all know youv been detecting for a 100 years and a senior member on here but you do go on a tad and thats an understatement.

I dont use the Deus my self Jerry, But i dont continualy slag it off either and it was not without its problems at the start either but wont go in to detail about that as there is no need,Its a very good light weight detector no question their.

Mayby Mr Minelab as you often Quote will come allong with a new lightweight Ctx that you will hopefully not slag off but sadly i dont think so.

So Jerry,Go have another Coffe and leave us all at piece to get on with the Ctx and contunue to learn the bloody thing and hopefully you can put it allong side the other Minelab Icons you have mentioned above.

Ps.Mayby you could try one sometime.
Its amazing well ballanced and feels lighter than the Etrac.

[jon_jn]

Jerry Said.
Quote "I dont think this will apply to the CTX3030 as time goes by we will see. Jerry. "Unquote

Jerry.Your never ending persistence in Downing the Ctx 3030 On just about every forum i go on simply amazes me and it seems like you are on some huge mission to destroy its very existence.

None of your comments on the Ctx are the least bit constructive Jerry just demeaning and belittling and mainly one liners that are evidently just trying to wind people up.

The jibes and pokes at it are tyresome and above all counter productive.We all know youv been detecting for a 100 years and a senior member on here but you do go on a tad and thats an understatement.

I dont use the Deus my self Jerry, But i dont continualy slag it off either and it was not without its problems at the start either but wont go in to detail about that as there is no need,Its a very good light weight detector no question their.

Mayby Mr Minelab as you often Quote will come allong with a new lightweight Ctx that you will hopefully not slag off but sadly i dont think so.

So Jerry,Go have another Coffe and leave us all at piece to get on with the Ctx and contunue to learn the bloody thing and hopefully you can put it allong side the other Minelab Icons you have mentioned above.

Ps.Mayby you could try one sometime.
Its amazing well ballanced and feels lighter than the Etrac.

is the ctx a hit or a miss??errrrrmis the ctx better than the etrac??errrrm do i find more now i have a ctx??errrm i really dont know the answer to any of these questions and after spending £2000 i really think i should! its still better than the deus though!!

[Steve Bowles]

is the ctx a hit or a miss??errrrrmis the ctx better than the etrac??errrrm do i find more now i have a ctx??errrm i really dont know the answer to any of these questions and after spending £2000 i really think i should! its still better than the deus though!!

Yes, for this kind of money the coil should double as a super-strong electro magnet that pulls the finds out of the gound. Then I could honestly say my 2 grand was well-spent.

[Deanicuss]

I own a Deus and an Etrac yes i use the Deus 90% of the time but im sitting on the Fence regarding the CTX i love my Deus but you wont see me knocking the CTX even with the amount of negative feedback its getting (yes i think i want one) Jerry i dont know why you bother posting on this topic as your not intersted in the CTX and your not going to get one fronm what i can see its just winding people up!
one thing that worries me is the fact that there is no support from minelab i just dont understand it? I will wait and keep reading these posts and take on board everyones views before i part with my cash.

[mal]

The Explorers and the e-trac are icons from the real original Minelab stable.

I dont think this will apply to the CTX3030 as time goes by we will see. Jerry.

I think this detector will amased the people that knock it.

Most of the people on Forums or I have spoken about this detector knock it and speak as experts but when you challenge them on what basis, they say "O' a friend has one and they told me." If people use this detector they will see the benefits and it's performance. The same people also said the same when the ETrac came out and knocked it which backfired as it is a classic.

People tend to knock things they dont understand and not used personally and the CTX is no different, its a way of life.

Yes the CTX is a different beast and has another learning curve just as did the ETrac and the Explorers before them. I am very pleased with it despite the high cost here in the UK.

Basically I am with the camp that says "dont knock unless you have tried it" for a good period of time and dont go on hearsay and tittle tattle . eg "they said it was no good in the surf" but I can assure you when I set up right its a great beach detector.

[jon_jn]

I think this detector will amased the people that knock it.

Most of the people on Forums or I have spoken about this detector knock it and speak as experts but when you challenge them on what basis, they say "O' a friend has one and they told me." If people use this detector they will see the benefits and it's performance. The same people also said the same when the ETrac came out and knocked it which backfired as it is a classic.

People tend to knock things they dont understand and not used personally and the CTX is no different, its a way of life.

Yes the CTX is a different beast and has another learning curve just as did the ETrac and the Explorers before them. I am very pleased with it despite the high cost here in the UK.

Basically I am with the camp that says "dont knock unless you have tried it" for a good period of time and dont go on hearsay and tittle tattle . eg "they said it was no good in the surf" but I can assure you when I set up right its a great beach detector.

what we need mal is for people like yourself to start posting programs and doing videos about the ctx,i feel that the imformation and help for people learning the ctx is coming through very slow.

[chriscolle]

Detectors get bashed around more on forums than they do out detecting.

I simply couldn't get my head around a Deus, didn't enjoy using it. Traded it in.
Now I'm in a position where I can have my pick of detector.
And rather loose some money on a trade in, then not enjoy my time detecting.

[chriscolle]

what we need mal is for people like yourself to start posting programs and doing videos about the ctx,i feel that the imformation and help for people learning the ctx is coming through very slow.

There is this video on youtube with Kevin Hoagland tuning a gold prospecting Eureka Gold prior to going detecting.
You can easily use the same principles when tuning any other detector.
The results are simply amazing.

Top end detectors like the E-trac, CTX, Deus, X-terra, Sovereign/Excal cater towards the newbie with tuned down performance.
But you really need to learn how to drive stick or tune a gold prospecting unit.


The fairly cheap X-terra 705 sniffed out this 4mmx4mmx0,5mm of sterling silver from the beach.

Since then the same principles on the CTX have found 2 silver earstuds at the beach.

It all comes down to understanding when your detector starts to false on low conductors and tuning it just below that point.
Using threshold, sensitivity, noise cancel, all metal, etc, etc.
Anything to get that signal penetrating the ground and just not reflecting back at you.

[jon_jn]

very interesting chris from what i saw,i will definitely watch it all when i get a bit of spare time.

[NeoCult]

Works for me except my charger not working once or twice which is weird, not sure its better than the E-Trac yet, jury is still out but do better with the E-Trac n CTX than I did with my Deus or T2 SE, horses for courses people, get confident with your machine and you will be happy

The CTX has many nice features and is 100% a machine I would suggest buying if you can afford it

here is some finds from my trip to Yorkshire between me with my CTX and my little brother with my E-Trac

[NeoCult]

Forgot to say the CTX pulled out the tiny ad 159 denarius on a well hunted out roman site where nothing was left apparently

[Iron Mask]

Forgot to say the CTX pulled out the tiny ad 159 denarius on a well hunted out roman site where nothing was left apparently

Some great finds. Please make a thread for them so everyone can enjoy a look.
Thanks

[Kyle]

wow - amazing array - these are the type of things that will promote the ctx - performance!
agree this needs a thread of its own.

well done ...brilliant land also.

[jcmaloney]

I`m a heretic. Until somebody shows me a target in a field with either an E-Trac or a CTX that my SE won`t get then the pound notes stay firmly in my pocket.
Yes I understand there are subtle improvements with both machines but the pre CTX hype was just too much and the politics of the pricing in the UK don`t sit comfortably with me.
From discussions with users, seeing the machine in action on various sites, reading the various issues etc and the extortionate cost then (unsuprisingly) its a miss in my book.
Definitive case of the Emporers new clothes.
I shall await various unrelated snipes with unsubstantiated evidence.

[JBM]

Many of my best finds came with the Explorer SE.

The CTX 3030 will not last so many years as the Explorer range have. Jerry.

[whigsvolt]

Many of my best finds came with the Explorer SE.

The CTX 3030 will not last so many years as the Explorer range have. Jerry.

Yawn Yawn Yawn Yawn.

[whigsvolt]

I`m a heretic. Until somebody shows me a target in a field with either an E-Trac or a CTX that my SE won`t get then the pound notes stay firmly in my pocket.
Yes I understand there are subtle improvements with both machines but the pre CTX hype was just too much and the politics of the pricing in the UK don`t sit comfortably with me.
From discussions with users, seeing the machine in action on various sites, reading the various issues etc and the extortionate cost then (unsuprisingly) its a miss in my book.
Definitive case of the Emporers new clothes.
I shall await various unrelated snipes with unsubstantiated evidence.

Bloomin Eck John.Your allmost starting to sound like our (Senior Jerry)
Go and try it John its an amazing bit of kit.

[NeoCult]

Many of my best finds came with the Explorer SE.

The CTX 3030 will not last so many years as the Explorer range have. Jerry.

So did mine till I mastered and E-Trac and picked up what my SE missed, I think the CTX is showing it's worth now still plenty testing to do though

[jcmaloney]

Bloomin Eck John.Your allmost starting to sound like our (Senior Jerry)
Go and try it John its an amazing bit of kit.

I have tried it thanks Keith. Great ergonomics. Thats about it as far as improvements go & its turned iffy audio signals into iffy visual signals. There are certain things I like about it but (unfortunately) there are as many I don`t like. The "pre-launch" hype was suggesting a machine that would have much greater DETECTING ABILITY than anything previously whereas the end result was a souped up E-Trac in a waterproof coat with some reasonably useless bells & whistles. Add that to the in field failure rate & non functioning tech and I would rather keep the £££`s in the bank until it is glitch free & improved.
Of course that is just my humble and if anyone has a CTX & they love it the good luck to them.

[whigsvolt]

I have tried it thanks Keith. Great ergonomics. Thats about it as far as improvements go & its turned iffy audio signals into iffy visual signals. There are certain things I like about it but (unfortunately) there are as many I don`t like. The "pre-launch" hype was suggesting a machine that would have much greater DETECTING ABILITY than anything previously whereas the end result was a souped up E-Trac in a waterproof coat with some reasonably useless bells & whistles. Add that to the in field failure rate & non functioning tech and I would rather keep the £££`s in the bank until it is glitch free & improved.
Of course that is just my humble and if anyone has a CTX & they love it the good luck to them.

I was out with it Today John and found allot of stuff copper coins etc etc Cup weights,No silver this time though which is unusual But it just seems to seperate better.
You can see the rejected Target and the good one on the screen its amazing once you get the hang of it.

I do agree though John it is a hell of a price,but the wirleless unit is fanatastic and well worth the money.
Like you say John the ergonomics are very good and i have had no fatigue period with this detector.
The Tiny targets produce huge audio signals which the Etrac rarely did.

[Tony Hunt]

I am very much alive and well and enjoying the CTX and the Bliss, two perfect machines for my type of hunting. I'm still finding plenty with both unlike the short period I had the deus. Theres more than enough of us on admin. Since Gary changed the server theres little most of us are able to do. With the old server I and the others could access membership details, change passwords, update platinum members, indeed check most things. With the new server and the permissions gary gave us we can do nothing except moderate / delete posts. Can't do anything to help Gordon with membership details etc. Now its all changed and Gary has gone its mostly all down to Gordon and Pat the new owners. Gordon has been away filming for what seems like ages and Pat probably because of other commitments hardly ever visits. Thats basically why it seems so quiet.
The CTX for me is a winner like the ETrac was except that I have more bells and whistles now. Because of the better balance I find it more comfortable to use and I have the same Tennis elbow problems as boozer. I can certainly use it for long periods but I do bungee it like every other machine I use mainly because of the way i like to detect, stood up or bent over. I never sit or kneel to dig like some do, theres no need plus I would never be able to get up again if i stopped to do that.
As far as coils go I use the Pro and 17" coils, can't see the point in a 6" for my type of detecting. After using these coils for a while I often feel like the Pro coil should have been an inch or two bigger and that minelab should have stuck with a smaller one around 8-9" but I guess they have had to cater for many types and their use around the world. The 6" to me would feel like just having a blob on the end of the stem which would certainly do nothing for balance. When I bought mine I decided to buy the large coil instead of the wireless unit, mainly to save the cost of one item and also Because I'm bungeed the cable to headphones is no problem.
In one or two posts Ive likened using the CTX to having a Rolls Royce and the ETrac to being a BMW, both classy machines and top of their trees, I also own and use the Blisstool because of its raw power and depth capabilities, I have witnessed what it can do and am still learning how to do it. For that reason I will be keeping both my present machines. My ownership of the Deus was just a hiccup, a very costly one that didn't produce on the type of ground I detect on.
Going back to the forum I'm not going anywhere so long as I'm wanted. Yes it is a lot different and not so easy to use, the more you visit the more easier it gets. I would love to be able to help Gordon more as I'm sure some of the other mods would. With this new board I think its a lot more complicated in the backroom and thats why Gary didn't want us messing in case we broke something.
All credit to Gordon he's always there somewhere in the background even though he doesn't say a lot sometimes, thats mainly because of the busy filming schedule he's had which is shortly coming to an end. He did tell me the other day that after a short break away he is going to be spending time rebuilding UKDFD which has had problems since the server move. Hopefully all in all we have a rosy future, my biggest complaint as is everybody elses is Minelabs almost total lack of communication on the forum. Apart from dear old Des who pops up occasionally with snippets of advice or a short video of his own making we get nothing. Lets all hope that they sacked the person responsible for the CTX launch debacle and that any future launches are handled the old way.

[Tony Hunt]

Apologies if I missed a day or two of posts and answered the first items raised later than everybody else, my you have all been busy posting which is a nice change.
Keith, i know Jerry might get on your nerves a bit as I expect I do to him keep knocking the Deus . Us old buggers just enjoy winding you younger buggers up a wee bit, notice I said younger. Difference is i had a Deus, T2, F75 and one or two others that just didn't give me the returns or the depth that I have been used to with the Explorers / ETrac. Jerry and I go back quite a long time, certainly before this MLO and I have a great deal of respect for him and his knowledge of detecting & Sea fishing. I can ring him up anytime and pick his brains on either subject, nothings ever too much trouble even just lately when he was feeling decidely under the weather waiting for an operation. Glad to say he's back to being as fit as he's likely to be for a fella of his age, more so than most would be I might add and long may he keep it up.
This new CTX is something else Isn't it, only those who use one regularly like us can really appreciate it. Its finding some incredibly small pieces from depth and with signal strength that you'd think was a crotal bell at times. I haven't posted a lot about it yet purely because so many things have been happening since I got it, work, then rallies away then family illness Im only just getting back to finding a bit of spare time to sit and talk about it. Oh I nearly forgot the fishing trips in between which I'm doing a lot more of these days. Just bought a small boat, first one I've had for years and Im intending to use it often down in the local estuaries, I'm keen to get to learn to Catch Bass and Mullet on the fly but thats another story.
One thing I'm definitely doing is cutting down on work done. Now Ive got to 66 I'm going to enjoy my hobbies even more, bugger it, why have a dog and bark yourself, our small staff are more than capable of doing the donkey work around the nursery without me, Detecting, trout fishing and now a rekindled love of Sea fishing is going to be the order of the day

[mal]

I have tried it thanks Keith. Great ergonomics. Thats about it as far as improvements go & its turned iffy audio signals into iffy visual signals. There are certain things I like about it but (unfortunately) there are as many I don`t like. The "pre-launch" hype was suggesting a machine that would have much greater DETECTING ABILITY than anything previously whereas the end result was a souped up E-Trac in a waterproof coat with some reasonably useless bells & whistles. Add that to the in field failure rate & non functioning tech and I would rather keep the £££`s in the bank until it is glitch free & improved.
Of course that is just my humble and if anyone has a CTX & they love it the good luck to them.

John,
I don’t think you understand what the CTX is about and if you have only used it for a few hours you have missed the point.

It does not turn the iffy audio into iffy visual so that is a bit of a misunderstanding.

The CTX gives you both improved audio and visual at the same time but in a different way to the ET and Explorers. I have many hours now with the CTX and still learning. I remember many years ago when the EXS came out the slating it got and what happened then is history. The first classic.

Like the experienced user I am you need to learn about the detector and what its telling you just like with the previous ETrac and Explorers. So for someone to judge on very little usage in the field and "what they say" needs to be a bit more reflective rather than judgemental on what they claim to know.

I looked at the price as have other's but I looked more at its capabilities and potential and liked what I saw. After detecting for 35+ years I would think I know a bit or two.

So come on John and the other knockers see what’s before you and you watch this detector develop into another Minelab classic.

[Deanicuss]

John,
I don’t think you understand what the CTX is about and if you have only used it for a few hours you have missed the point.

It does not turn the iffy audio into iffy visual so that is a bit of a misunderstanding.

The CTX gives you both improved audio and visual at the same time but in a different way to the ET and Explorers. I have many hours now with the CTX and still learning. I remember many years ago when the EXS came out the slating it got and what happened then is history. The first classic.

Like the experienced user I am you need to learn about the detector and what its telling you just like with the previous ETrac and Explorers. So for someone to judge on very little usage in the field and "what they say" needs to be a bit more reflective rather than judgemental on what they claim to know.

I looked at the price as have other's but I looked more at its capabilities and potential and liked what I saw. After detecting for 35+ years I would think I know a bit or two.

So come on John and the other knockers see what’s before you and you watch this detector develop into another Minelab classic.

Looking at the Price of the CTX yes its nearly £2000 but when the Deus came out it was pushing £1400 and when you look at the quality of the CTX and the features compared to the Deus which consists of a coil, a plastic lower stem, an alu upper stem and a simple control box the CTX aint bad value!
I own a Deus and do very well with it but im just pointing out how everyone moans at the cost but have you seen the CTX in the flesh?

[Kyle]

the cost of the ctx is ridiculous in my opinion - the cost of the deus is too.
i love the deus though...sure it can be improved - but i love it and so does my finds pouch horses for courses i guess