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    Off to sunny Spain........

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    Got a trip coming at the end of the week, one week in the water in the quest for yella.

    Anyone got any tips for for hunting under water with the CTX, I've heard its a bit chatty, which I don't really mind, but would like to get the best out of it to maximise my time.
    Never had any problems with the Scally, but not had the opportunity to get the CTX wet yet.......

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Is it ok to detect on the beaces in Spain? I'm hoping to do some on the Costa del Sol next May but I don't want to have my detetor confiscated. Are you taking the detector as hand luggage or putting it in the hold? Good luck. hope you find some gold.
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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Id like to know if ts ok to do Spain as well as I am going to Bellamadena in 2 weeks.. I thought they had changed the detecting laws in Spain?
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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Not sure if this info is right up to date but check it out anyway:

    http://www.detecnicks.co.uk/spain.htm

    http://www.ncmd.co.uk/law.html
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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Never had any problems over the years....but then again, if you draw attention to yourself and be a knob going between people on the dry sand, then you deserve to get into bother. In the water up to your neck, away from people, hardly anyone will know you are there.
    The police have enough to do controlling all the lager louts, pick pockets and general undesireables.........

    So, any tips on settings for underwater with the CTX then guys?
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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    whereabouts are you heading pastyman? might be able to put you on a few good spots. this year will be my ninth winter water detecting in spain and i have never had any real trouble with the police. i have been motioned out of the sea a few times but normally they are being nosey and just want to see what you have found. detecting in summer is different, it is best to get in the water early and get out as the beach fills and get back in in the evening. cumbrian fox , are you coming to bedford? if so i can draw you a little map of the best spots around benalmadena. the rules in andalucia are different and your supposed to have a permit but it beach specific not general so really restricting but again its not really enforced for holidaymakers so you SHOULD be ok. all the best sean

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Quote Originally Posted by seanmagee1 View Post
    whereabouts are you heading pastyman? might be able to put you on a few good spots. this year will be my ninth winter water detecting in spain and i have never had any real trouble with the police. i have been motioned out of the sea a few times but normally they are being nosey and just want to see what you have found. detecting in summer is different, it is best to get in the water early and get out as the beach fills and get back in in the evening. cumbrian fox , are you coming to bedford? if so i can draw you a little map of the best spots around benalmadena. the rules in andalucia are different and your supposed to have a permit but it beach specific not general so really restricting but again its not really enforced for holidaymakers so you SHOULD be ok. all the best sean
    Yes ill be in Bedford on Thursday morning early (setting off 3:30am) any help will be great and thanks in advance.. Sorry Pasty for hijacking the thread.
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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    I will be lurking around Salou, from what i can remember cambrills is not worth the bother, but can't remember. Have done Magaluf a few times and driven north to Sarenel, which was quite productive.
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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    That part of Spain should be OK.

    But remember detecting is spain is technically illegal.

    It can be done with caution in most places, some beaches are no go completely.
    It depends on the controlling council for the beach.

    If you are sensible, and do not annoy the sun worshipers etc, fill you holes, stay away from the laid out sun loungers and cafes on the beach. You may be ok. Do not argue with police, be polite (they all carry guns) so dont piss with them.

    Also watch out for the jelly fish if you are in the sea, the sting is nasty. !

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Pastyman, the main beach at Salou is cleaned mechanically, if you want to find cash on the dry sand try the smaller coves, there are some within walking distance, or up near the sea wall.

    Every time I go I check with my Spanish lawyer friend that it's still legal. I've been curiously watched by the Local Police and Civil Guard, but going early mornings and late evenings has kept me out of trouble, as has stopping for a chat and a drink at the beach bars (if these guys complain, the Police WILL get rid of you). In some bigger resorts the police will get rid of you anyway. And this seems random, I've been to Salou, Sitges and Palma Nova mid-day in October with no problems but I've heard of people being very discrete at Alcudia and running into trouble.

    Beware of closed beach bars on remote beaches, ideal detecting territory but if you get too close you'll set the alarm off

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Got a 3mm steamer for the jellies.........seem to remember that some of the lifeguards now do thew beaches under the protection of the local gunslingers........one guy does Magaluf, and has a regular patrol go by the beach on the lookout.....
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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    be very careful as all detecting is banned in andalucia special permission is required allover the region beach included.

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    hi nico, this winter will be my 9 th year in a row from one end of andalucia to the other. i have never had any issues from the police either local or guardia civil . had a few spanish detectorists tell me that this its not possible for me to detect but never the police .
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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Quote Originally Posted by seanmagee1 View Post
    hi nico, this winter will be my 10 th year in a row from one end of andalucia to the other. i have never had any issues from the police either local or guardia civil . had a few spanish detectorists tell me that this its not possible for me to detect but never the police .
    With respect please listen to the Spanish detectorists and what they are saying.

    Metal detecting in Andalusia is illegal.

    You could end up with a hefty fine and your detector confiscated.

    Just because you have "got away with it" does not make it right or legal.

    Sometimes it just takes one to make the whole hobby spoilt for the rest, please do not be the "one"

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    with respect robin "got away with it " is not the issue. each winter i spend 6 months there in spain x 9 years is a lot of time to get away with it dont you think? i have seen and chatted to plenty of police over this time and never had any grief. i also know quite a few spanish detectorists who will openly tell you they try to frighten off visitors to their patch. as regards to the law i agree it is illegal to detect in spain but this is generally not enforced in my experience and if you limit your detecting to reasonable times (early morning/late evening) you shouldnt have any trouble. do you have a permit robin ?

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Quote Originally Posted by seanmagee1 View Post
    with respect robin "got away with it " is not the issue. each winter i spend 6 months there in spain x 9 years is a lot of time to get away with it dont you think? i have seen and chatted to plenty of police over this time and never had any grief. i also know quite a few spanish detectorists who will openly tell you they try to frighten off visitors to their patch. as regards to the law i agree it is illegal to detect in spain but this is generally not enforced in my experience and if you limit your detecting to reasonable times (early morning/late evening) you shouldnt have any trouble. do you have a permit robin ?
    Not my patch but what you do reflects badly on the rest of detectorists in spain.
    The law is clear Andalusia is off limits.
    We work with our local councils as a club and ask for permission and always wear ID badges.
    We do not detect on beaches the council have told us not too.

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Quote Originally Posted by seanmagee1 View Post
    with respect robin "got away with it " is not the issue. each winter i spend 6 months there in spain x 9 years is a lot of time to get away with it dont you think? i have seen and chatted to plenty of police over this time and never had any grief. i also know quite a few spanish detectorists who will openly tell you they try to frighten off visitors to their patch. as regards to the law i agree it is illegal to detect in spain but this is generally not enforced in my experience and if you limit your detecting to reasonable times (early morning/late evening) you shouldnt have any trouble. do you have a permit robin ?
    Sorry Sean, but just because you haven't run into trouble after being told by the locals that it's illegal, doesn't make it any different than night hawking.

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    ah! now i know who you are! you are in the club down near san pedro . robin , i'm sure i dont need to tell you but as with all things spanish the laws are always pliable to some extent (smoking in bars/ cycle helmets) and detecting beaches is no exception. because you and your club went down the official route and have got permission in a small very area of andalusia you have limited yourself to just that area which must be annoying. you say you dont detect the beaches because the council told you not to so where did you find the jewellry you posted on the forum recently ? in the fields? stones and glass houses spring to mind. most spanish police dont see beach detecting as a harmful thing just an odd hobby and most are impressed by the amount of junk i remove from their beaches so until they tell me to stop i will carry on enjoying it. regards sean

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Bowles View Post
    Sorry Sean, but just because you haven't run into trouble after being told by the locals that it's illegal, doesn't make it any different than night hawking.
    nice try

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    We do not detect in Andalusia. Period.
    We only detect the beaches where we have approached the local council and ask permission.
    Yes and the jewellery was found on some of those beaches.

    Yes we are doing it officially !

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    give yourself a pat on the back robin . i'm bored now.
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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Bowles View Post
    Sorry Sean, but just because you haven't run into trouble after being told by the locals that it's illegal, doesn't make it any different than night hawking.
    What makes everyone think that the locals know so much about the rules and regulations? Very often locals make up the rules as the see beneficial. I am talking about such rules that may be discussed with a tourist or visitor. Ask 9 out of 10 people here in Czech about the rules and they will all tell something different. Ask 9 out of 10 Czech police officers and 6 of them may ask what a metal detector is.
    Another example, the rules in Austria are very strict on paper yet many enjoy detecting with ease and without problems from land owners or police.
    Then there is etiquette vs rules/laws and many people get them mixed.
    I know Sean personally and I can assure you that if a person with authority enforced the rules upon him then he would be the last person to continue.
    Some laws are written to protect the archeology as some people are too thick to understand the difference between beach a field or a protected monument. This is where one such as a police officer must use good judgment to decide if it justifies giving a fine or enforcing the law. It happens all the time.
    If you don’t understand, here is an example.
    Speed limit is 100 km/ hour. Doing 102 km/hr is technically illegal. How often do you get charged for doing 2km over the limit? Again all about good judgment and nothing to do with the law.
    Often beach detecting is seen as such. Especially if you are respectful to the beach goers and just simply don’t be a idiot.
    Take out your trash; fill holes in the dry, etc.

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    Re: Off to sunny Spain........

    My point, which will probably be the last I ever make, is that here in England we are all cognizant of the stipulations imposed upon us by the Treasure Act and PAS. Accordingly, I would not expect a visitor from Spain or Ireland to know the regulations. Neither would I expect a Yank, Brit, or someone visiting from Ireland to be on top of metal detecting regulations in these small provinces where officials can change a regulation at the stroke of a pen. Nor would I trust the police in any country not to look upon the tourist with a metal detector as a mobile cash point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Bowles View Post
    My point, which will probably be the last I ever make, is that here in England we are all cognizant of the stipulations imposed upon us by the Treasure Act and PAS. Accordingly, I would not expect a visitor from Spain or Ireland to know the regulations. Neither would I expect a Yank, Brit, or someone visiting from Ireland to be on top of metal detecting regulations in these small provinces where officials can change a regulation at the stroke of a pen. Nor would I trust the police in any country not to look upon the tourist with a metal detector as a mobile cash point.
    Surely you don't suggest that the authorities could ever indulge in wallet leverage at gunpoint..... That's just not cricket..........

    I'm wondering what the rules are around Benidorm then??????
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    Spain have their laws and we need to respect that. Just like any other countries law.

    If I was going to an unknown country to detect I would ask first and then do what was necessary to obtain permission if it is possible to do so. I would heed the advise.

    People who live here say its illegal in Andalusia, detecting illegally could result in a multi thousand euro fine and confiscation of equipment.

    The reason this region is so against it is because so many artefacts have been stolen in the past.

    We work with the councils and to make this a fun hobby for those who live here and hope to do so for many years

    As for Benidorm some councils are ok, some not, one authority who has control of a Benidorm beach is a complete no go.

    The reason for this was it was spoilt by detectorist who thought they knew best. !

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